The Law of Witnesses:

In the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established. 

D&C 6:28 . . . Deut. 17:6;  Matt. 18:16;  2 Cor. 13:1;  Ether 5:4;  D&C 128:3

The Prophet, John Taylor, circa 1950.

The Prophet, John Taylor, circa 1950.

Yesterday, I got a phone call from one of the local priesthood leaders in my LDS church unit. He asked if I would be willing to give a talk, and I said that I would. He gave me an assigned topic and I have been doing some initial research on it for a few hours this afternoon. I stumbled upon something that is kind of blowing my mind. I would like to know if it is still doctrine within the LDS church. The law of witnesses is also in effect here, because all five quotes are from the Prophet John Taylor, while he was serving as third president, prophet, seer and revelator of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

Right now I am feeling really angry, and no one had better dare tell me that the Journal of Discourses means nothing, isn’t official, isn’t canonized, so therefore, please disregard these FIVE repeated and recorded teachings of a PROPHET of the Church. Because that would mean you’re also saying that the canonized scriptures that he cited are somehow nothing, not official, not canonized and should be disregarded, too.

“The Journal of Discourses deservedly ranks as one of the standard works of the Church, and every right-minded Saint will certainly welcome with joy every number (issue) as it comes forth.” -President George Q. Cannon (Journal of Discourses, Preface, Volume 8)

Furthermore, here is something that Joseph Smith himself said about keeping records, which I assume applies to the Journal of Discourses: “If you assemble from time to time, and proceed to discuss important questions, and pass decisions upon the same, and fail to note them down, by and by you will be driven to straits from which you will not be able to extricate yourselves, because you may be in a situation not to bring your faith to bear with sufficient perfection or power to obtain the desired information; or, perhaps, for neglecting to write these things when God had revealed them, not esteeming them of sufficient worth, the Spirit may withdraw, and God may be angry, and there is, or was, a vast knowledge, of infinite importance, which is now lost. What was the cause of this? It came in consequence of slothfulness, or a neglect to appoint a man to occupy a few moments in writing all these decisions. Here let me prophesy. The time will come, when, if you neglect to do this thing, you will fall by the hands of unrighteous men… Now, if you will be careful to keep minutes of these things, as I have said, it will be one of the most important records ever seen.”

TAYLOR Quote 1:

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“We are here as saviors of men (D&C 103:9), and not as tyrants and oppressors. But at the same time if men do not and will not yield obedience to the laws of God, then it becomes the duty of those who preside over them to see that the law of God is carried out, and that these unrighteous men are severed from the Church.  We have had adulterers among us, and wherever I have heard of them I have directed that they be severed from the Church. Why? Because I cannot permit it, and God will not permit it. Who is it that will be outside of the Eternal City by and by? The liar, the hypocrite, the whoremonger, the sorcerer and the adulterer – they shall be with the dogs outside of the city (Rev 22:15). Now, I do not want to try to drag such men in. We have no right to tamper with these things. God expects us to begin to walk up to the line, and to perform the several duties that devolve upon us. We must honor our God, and purge the Church from unrighteousness. I have had cases come before me in regard to adultery. There is a law in relation to that – that is, when they have not entered into the new and everlasting covenant, and taken upon themselves obligations associated with celestial law – that if a man commits adultery he shall make an acknowledgement of it before the Church – that is, if it is his first offense and he has not sinned in this wise before. If it is his first offense, and he repents, he shall be forgiven, but if he does it a second time he shall be cast out. (D&C 42:24-26). But when we come to other things – things that are more serious – when men have entered into covenants associated with celestial law and taken upon themselves obligations pertaining thereto, it is a different matter. I will read a little from the revelation: And as ye have asked concerning adultery, verily, verily, I say unto you, if a man receive a wife in the new and everlasting covenant, and if she be with another man, and I have not appointed unto her by the holy anointing, she hath committed adultery and shall be destroyed. If she be not in the new and everlasting covenant, and she be with another man, she has committed adultery . . . (D&C 132:41-63) Here is a principle – and the same principle applies to the man – that if a man commits adultery, he also shall be destroyed. Can I change that? I did not make the law. Have I the right to change it? ‘But’, says one, ‘does it not say that what you shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and what you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven?’ Yes, but I have to know if it is the mind and will of God that it shall be so. The law says, ‘they shall be destroyed’ What else? ‘And shall be delivered unto the buffetings of Satan unto the day of redemption.‘ (D&C 132:26). That is the law. Can I change it? Can you? I speak now to Presidents Stakes and Bishops. We are told that we are not to be partakers of other men’s sins (1 Tim 5:22, Rev 18:4), Now, you send men with recommends to me to have me pass upon them. I trust you. I suppose you are acquainted with these things. I suppose you act intelligently and understandingly. But if people do not fulfill the requirements of the Gospel, you have no right to recommend them to the house of the Lord. They do not belong there. People who do not observe the laws of the Gospel and live their religion should not receive recommends, and if you do recommend such you will be held responsible, for I will not. I receive them upon your authority and trust your judgement. . . Adultery is the curse of the nations today and it is corrupting, corroding and eating out the very vitals of the people among the nations. They are overrun with it. God has set us apart to do His will and to build up His Kingdom and His Zion. Zion means the pure in heart (D&C 97:21) and we have to be pure in heart and pure in life.” Source: Journal of Discourses 24: 268-270.

TAYLOR Quote 2:

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“Further, I wish to say something in regard to adultery. We are told in the Book of Doctrine and Covenants,  Thou shalt not commit adultery; and he that committeth adultery, and repenteth not, shall be cast out.  But he that has committed adultery and repents with all his heart, and forsaketh it, and doeth it no more, thou shalt forgive; But if he doeth it again, he shall not be forgiven, but shall be cast out. (D&C 42:24-26) 

This was in the early ages of the Church, in February, 1831. But who is here referred to? Is it a man who has entered into the new and everlasting covenant, and has been sealed by the Holy Spirit of promise, (D&C 132:7, D&C 132:19) and by that covenant has been united to his wife for time and all eternity, and his wife to him? No, it refers to those who have not entered into this covenant, who have not taken upon themselves obligations of that nature in a Temple or Endowment House;to the latter class who shall be found guilty of this sin, the word of the Lord comes unqualifiedly, they shall be destroyed (D&C 132:26, 41, 52, 54, 63-64).  The Lord does expect us to be a pure people, a virtuous people, a people whose bodies and spirits are pure before Him. If wrong doing be practiced in our midst, the Lord expects His Priesthood to ferret it out, or He will hold them responsible. We cannot commit sin with impunity. We cannot violate the laws of God and enjoy His Spirit; nor can we permit the laws of God to be trampled upon and still receive His approbation. Quite recently a certain Bishop wrote me, stating that one of his Counselors dabbled in astrology; that he had been known to consult it in reference to the sick. He wanted to know what I thought of it. I told him to drop that Counselor, that he was not fit to be a Bishop’s Counselor, nor to hold the holy Priesthood. We must not permit such practices to exist among us; and if that Bishop declines to do his duty, I shall be in favor of removing him, for not carrying out the law of God. Again, we hear of fraudulent acts sometimes, and we permit them to be passed over. What are laws for?What are Bishops’ Courts and High Councils for? That when men transgress the laws of God, they shall be tried according to the laws of the Church, and if found guilty, and are worthy of such action, they shall be cast out; that the pure and the righteous may be sustained, and the wicked and corrupt, the ungodly and impure, be dealt with according to the laws of God.This is necessary in order to maintain purity throughout the Church, and to cast off iniquity therefrom. For the Spirit of God will not dwell in unholy temples.” Source: Journal of Discourses 24:170-171

TAYLOR Quote 3:

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Shall we not let the lascivious man wallow in his corruption? No. According to certain principles that are laid down in the book of Doctrine and Covenants in regard to those things, those who have entered into the new and everlasting covenant, and have taken upon themselves certain obligations, if they commit adultery it is positively said they shall be destroyed. (D&C 132:41). Now, can you change that, or can I change it? No, I cannot, and you cannot; Source: Journal of Discourses 26:134

TAYLOR Quote 4:

screen-capture-46Suffice it to say that as Latter-day Saints we ought to be under the law of love, of kindness, and of mercy. And yet at the same time we cannot overlook the wrong. It is right to probe certain things to the bottom as you have done this thing. . . I have already published a statement about a woman who had committed an act of adultery while her husband was away from home. I was written to about it. Why, said I, cut her off from the Church. We cannot have such people in the Church. Ultimately I requested the husband of the woman to come and see me, but instead of coming himself he brought along the seducer of his wife and three beautiful children—three as beautiful children as I had seen anywhere and as promising. It made my heart ache to see the position that that woman had placed her family in. But I could not help it. She had entered into covenants which were sacred. She had violated those covenants. The Book of Covenants says that such people shall be destroyed (D&C 132:41).I could not change it. I did not make that law. When they told me that the seducer was there, I said, I do not want to see him. I can’t have anything to do with such a wretch—a man that would enter into a family and debauch another man’s wife while he was away, thus taking advantage of the circumstances in which she was placed. I do not know who the man was; and I don’t care. I don’t want to see him. The woman wept. “Can I stay in the Church,” she asked. “No, madam, you can’t.” I could not assume the responsibility, the Bishop could not assume the responsibility, the High Council could not assume the responsibility without becoming partakers of the crime. I have seen other things of a similar kind and have had to deal with them. This High Council has no right to condone sin. This is an error that people fall into. If men transgress and violate the laws of God, they have no right but to deal with them according to the law of God. Treat them kindly; do the best you can for them, but do not condone their crimes.Apostles, Prophets, Pastors, Teachers, Deacons, and High Councils are placed in the Church as they formerly were, for the perfecting of the Saints; (Ephesians 4:11-12); not to pass over iniquity because of certain influences.No influence of any kind ought to control you, only the pure principles of eternal truth as laid down in the law of God. No man can inherit a celestial kingdom who does not keep a celestial law (D&C 88:22). Source: Journal of Discourses 26:359-360.

TAYLOR Quote 5:

screen-capture-46And then it is not enough for men to be married to wives and be sealed according to the order of God, they must treat them aright when they have them; they must treat them as they would treat angels of God; they must be full of kindness and mercy and long-suffering; they must provide for them and make them happy and comfortable, and take care of the families they have by them, and in this way gain the favor of God, and the respect of all honorable men. The laws of heaven must not be violated. We must keep sacred the holy covenants we have entered into. I will here relate a circumstance that came under my notice a short time ago, which will serve to show the terrible consequences following a violation of the law of God. A certain Bishop wrote to me to know what should be done in the following case: A man had been away from home on a mission, and during his absence his wife had committed adultery. I replied that the woman would have to be severed from the Church; but requested that the aggrieved husband should call upon me. He did so, bringing with him his delinquent wife and three beautiful little boys—three as beautiful little boys as I ever saw. He also brought with him the villain who had done the damage. But I told him to take him away, I would have no communication with such a contemptible wretch. The husband explained that he wished to talk with me in the presence of his wife, if it was agreeable. He wanted to know what was to be done in the case. I told him I should be under the necessity of confirming the Bishop’s decision in the case, but I will have read to you what the law says upon the subject. George Reynolds, who is one of my secretaries, was present, and I asked him to read certain portions of the revelation on celestial marriage; for they had been married according to that order. That revelation states that, “If a man receiveth a wife in the new and everlasting covenant, and if she be with another man, and I have not appointed unto her by the holy anointing, she hath committed adultery and shall be destroyed.” (D&C 132:41)  And in another place it says, “they shall be destroyed in the flesh, and shall be delivered unto the buffetings of Satan unto the day of redemption, saith the Lord God.” (D&C 132:26) Now, said I, I did not make that law. I find it in the word of God. It is not my province to change it. I cannot make any change. I am sorry for these little children. I am sorry for the shame and infamy that has been brought upon them; but I cannot reverse the law of God.I did not commit this crime; I am not responsible for it; I cannot take upon myself the responsibility of other peoples’ acts. Well, it made my heart ache. The husband wept like a child, so did the woman; but I could not help that. I speak of this for the purpose of bringing up other things, and of presenting them before the people. And the principle I desire to impress upon their minds is, that we have no right, any of us, to violate the laws of God.  The President of a Stake has no right to violate these laws; his Counselors have no right to do it; the Bishops have no right to do it; the Priests, Teachers and Deacons have no right to do it. God has called us to stand in holy places, (D&C 45:32, D&C 87:8, D&C 101:22), and has placed upon us the responsibility of the Priesthood. He expects us to be as true to that Priesthood and to the administration thereof as the Gods are in the eternal worlds. We may think we can do this, that and the other irrespective of the word of God, but let it be understood that we cannot hide anything from the Lord; the Scriptures say, “Hell and destruction are before the Lord: how much more then the hearts of the children of men?” (Proc 15:11) We may succeed in hiding our affairs from men; but it is written that for every word and every secret thought we shall have to give an account in the day when accounts have to be rendered before God, (Matt 12:36-37, Luke 12:2-3) when hypocrisy and fraud of any kind will not avail us; for by our words and by our works we shall be justified, or by them we shall be condemned. (Alma 12:14)It is for us to walk uprightly before God. (D&C 18:31, D&C 109:1)  And it is for the Priesthood—the Presidents of Stakes, Bishops, Priests, Teachers and Deacons—to be governed by the law of God, and to see that there is no iniquity prevailing in the Church, (D&C 20:53-54) and if there is, it must be dealt with according to the law of God, and not according to the notions and opinions of men. We have no right to condone this and to change the other, and to think that we are going to save men by permitting all kinds of iniquity to abound. It is the duty of those in authority to see things straightened out. Matters are sometimes allowed to go on to that extent that hard feelings, division, contention and strife arise, and all this because Teachers, Bishops and others do not do their duty. In our Bishops’ Courts, and in our High Councils, we must be governed by the law of God, and not by our notions and sympathies, or anything of that kind, and not because it is somebody’s son, or somebody’s brother, or somebody’s relative. If I have any sons, brothers or relatives, and they do something wrong, bring them up and adjudge them according to the law of God, and do the same with me and with everybody else. We sometimes think we will bear with this, that and the other thing. Perhaps a man may be a drunkard, and being a pretty good sort of a fellow, we think we will bear with him. I tell you he ought to be dealt with according to the law of God, and the same for Sabbath breaking, adultery, and other violations of His laws. The Saints cannot violate any of the laws of God with impunity, and the officers of the Church ought to see that they do not do it. We must not be governed by sympathies. My sympathies in the case that I related were very strong; but I must not be governed by sympathies—I must be governed by the law of God. Source: Journal of Discourses 24: 232-233


QUOTES FROM CONTEMPORARIES OF JOHN TAYLOR

(Just in case your spiritual maturity level requires that the Law of Witnesses to be activated by more than one man, in order for you to believe it, well then, here you go:)

Anciently, when God’s laws provided a government for ancient Israel, marriage was honorable both plural and single (Gen 16:1-3, 11:29) as all students of the Bible know full well. At the same time adultery was punished by death. (Lev 20:10 Deut 22:22). From the days that King Abimelech attempted intimacy with Sarah, whom he supposed to be eligible to marry, but afterwards found her to be the wife of Abraham, from the time that the angel of the Lord warned him that he would be a dead man if he persisted, (Gen 20:1-7), from that time to the coming of the Savior, adultery was punishable by death, (John 8:3-5, D&C 132:41) while marriage both single and plural was honorable, ordained and appointed of God, and provision was made for the protection and rights of each wife and her offspring. (D&C 132:1-40, Deut 21:15-17). But our Christian statesmen are offering premiums for licentiousness, and are seeking to make odious the honor and purity of marriage. This is all wrong. – Erastus Snow , Journal of Discourses 23:295

If their soldiers desert and come in here, may the Lord God bless them, that they may have the Spirit of God on them while they stay here! We live to let live, and we will treat them with kindness and gentility, if they stay here and behave themselves. But they cannot whore it here; for, gentlemen, if there is anything of that kind, we will slay both men and women. We will do it, as the Lord liveth—we will slay such characters. Now, which would be the most worthy to be slain—the woman that had had her endowments and made certain covenants before God, or the man that knew nothing about it?The woman, of course. She must be guilty according to her knowledge. (D&C 132:41)  – Heber C. Kimball, Journal of Discourses 6:38

“A man who practices wrong may have all these blessings pronounced upon him; he may have been baptized and have had hands laid upon him; he may go through the Temple and have wives sealed to him and have every blessing promised unto him that is promised to the most faithful of the children of God, and yet if he does not live so as to be worthy of these blessings, he will not receive them; he will, sooner or later, be bereft of them and left destitute. This is the glorious feature of this great tie [priesthood power] that God has restored to the earth. It only binds the righteous. It does not bind the wicked to the righteous. It does not bind the wicked to the wicked. It’s power or saving force can only be exercised or enjoyed where righteousness prevails.” – George Q. Cannon, JD 26


DEFINITIONS per Webster’s 1828 Dictionary, just so we are clear  on what we are talking about here:

      • adultery – 1.) the unfaithfulness of any married person to the marriage bed; 2.) intercourse of a married man, with an unmarried woman, is fornication in both, and adultery of the man, 3.) In a scriptural sense, all manner of lewdness or unchastity, as in the seventh commandment.
      • adulterated – Corrupted; debased by a mixture with something of less value.
      • debauch – The general sense of debauch in English, is to lead astray, like seduce. 1. To corrupt or vitiate; as, to debauch a prince or a youth; to debauch good principles.  2. To corrupt with lewdness; as, to debauch a woman.  3. To seduce from duty or allegiance; as, to debauch an army.
      • fornication – The incontinence or lewdness of unmarried persons, male or female; also, the criminal conversation of a married man with an unmarried woman.
      • lewdness – The unlawful indulgence of lust; fornication, or adultery. Also thought of in scripture as idolatry. Licentiousness; shamelessness.
      • whoremonger – same as the whoremaster. Definition: One who practices lewdness.
      • buffeting – A striking with the hand. Contention; attack; opposition.
      • delivered – Transferred or transmitted; passed from one to another; committed; yielded; surrendered 2. ) Freed; released; rescued; 3.) uttered; pronounced.
      • destroyed – Demolished; pulled down; ruined; annihilated; devoured; swept away;
      • doctrine – a principle or position in any science; whatever is laid down as true by an instructor or master. The doctrines of the gospel are the principles or truths taught by Christ and his apostles.
      • dog – A term of reproach or contempt given to a man. To give or throw to the dogs, is to throw away, as useless.To go to the dogs, is to be ruined.
      • duty – That which a person owes to another; that which a person is bound, by any natural, moral or legal obligation, to pay, do or perform. Obedience to princes, magistrates and the laws is the duty of every citizen and subject; obedience, respect and kindness to parents are duties of children; fidelity to friends is a duty; reverence, obedience and prayer to God are indispensable duties; the government and religious instruction of children are duties of parents which they cannot neglect without guilt.  2. Forbearance of that which is forbid by morality, law, justice or propriety. It is our duty to refrain from lewdness, intemperance, profaneness and injustice. 3. Obedience; submission. 4. Act of reverence or respect.
      • forbearance – 1.) The act of avoiding, shunning or omitting; either the cessation or intermission of an act commenced, or a withholding from beginning an act. 2.) Command of temper; restraint of passions. 3.) The exercise of patience; long suffering; indulgence towards those who injure us; lenity; delay of resentment or punishment.
      • fraud – Deceit; deception; trick; artifice by which the right or interest of another is injured; a stratagem intended to obtain some undue advantage; an attempt to gain or the obtaining of an advantage over another by imposition or immoral means, particularly deception in contracts, or bargain and sale, either by stating falsehoods, or suppressing truth.
      • governed – Directed; regulated by authority; controlled; managed; influenced; restrained.
      • guilty – Criminal; having knowingly committed a crime or offense, or having violated a law by an overt act or by neglect, and by that act or neglect, being liable to punishment; not innocent. 2.) Wicked; corrupt; sinful; 3.) Conscious  4.) In Scripture, to be guilty of death, is to have committed a crime which deserves death 5.) To be guilty of the body and blood of Christ, is to be chargeable with the crime of crucifying Christ afresh, and offering indignity to his person and righteousness, represented by the symbols of the Lord’s supper.
      • impunity – Exemption from punishment or penalty. Freedom or exemption from injury.
      • law –  A law is that which is laid, set or fixed. A rule, particularly an established or permanent rule, prescribed by the supreme power of a state to its subjects, for regulating their actions, particularly their social actions. Laws are imperative or mandatory, commanding what shall be done; prohibitory, restraining from what is to be forborn; or permissive, declaring what may be done without incurring a penalty…  Moral law is a law which prescribes to men their religious and social duties, in other words, their duties to God and to each other. The moral law is summarily contained in the decalogue or ten commandments, written by the finger of God on two tables of stone, and delivered to Moses on mount Sinai. liar – A person who knowingly utters falsehood; one who declares to another as a fact what he knows to be not true, and with an intention to deceive him. The uttering of falsehood by mistake, and without an intention to deceive, does not constitute one a liar. 2.) One who denies Christ.
      • obligation – The binding power of a vow, promise, oath or contract, or of law, civil, political or moral, independent of a promise; that which constitutes legal or moral duty, and which renders a person liable to coercion and punishment for neglecting it.
      • partaker – One who has or takes a part, share or portion in common with others; a sharer; a participator; An accomplice; an associate.
      • pass over – to go or move from side to side; to cross; [Who’s on the Lord’s side, WHO?!]
      • principle – According to Boyd K. Packer, a principle is an eternal truth right –  1.) Just claim by sovereignty; prerogative. God, as the author of all things, has a right to govern and dispose of them at his pleasure. 2.) Just claim; legal title; ownership; the legal power of exclusive possession and enjoyment.  3.) Just claim; immunity; privilege. All men have a right to the secure enjoyment of life, personal safety, liberty and property. 4.) That which justly belongs to one.
      • sacred – We here see the connection between sacredness and secrecy. The sense is removed or separated from that which is common, vulgar, polluted, or open, public; [accursed is separated from society or the privileges of citizens, rejected, banished.]
      • sympathy – Fellow feeling; the quality of being affected by the affection of another, with feelings by the affection of another, with feelings correspondent in kind, if not in degree… In natural history, a propension of inanimate things to unite, or to act on each other. Thus we say, there is a sympathy between the lodestone and iron.
      • trample – To tread under foot; especially, to tread upon with pride, contempt, triumph or scorn.
      • unqualifiedly – Not modified or restricted by conditions or exceptions
      • violate – To break; to infringe; to transgress; as, to violate the laws of the state; 2.) to violate the divine commands; to violate one’s vows or promises. Promises and commands may be violated negatively, by non-observance. 3.) To treat with irreverence; to profane; as, to violate the sanctity of a holy place 4.) To injure; to do violence to. 5.) To ravish; to compress by force.
      • witness – 1.) Testimony; attestation of a fact or event. 2.) One who gives testimony

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A STUDY IN JUXTAPOSITION

IGNORED WITNESS, 1985: “There appears to be a plague of child abuse spreading across the world. … I am glad there is a hue and cry going up against this terrible evil, too much of which is found among our own. Fathers, you cannot abuse your little ones without offending God. Any man involved in an incestuous relationship is unworthy to hold the priesthood. He is unworthy to hold membership in the Church and should be dealt with accordingly.” – President Gordon B. Hinckley (Ensign,May 1985, p. 50.) I was 12.

Again, we hear of fraudulent acts sometimes, and we permit them to be passed over. What are laws for? What are Bishops’ Courts and High Councils for? That when men transgress the laws of God, they shall be tried according to the laws of the Church, and if found guilty, and are worthy of such action, they shall be cast out; that the pure and the righteous may be sustained, and the wicked and corrupt, the ungodly and impure, be dealt with according to the laws of God. This is necessary in order to maintain purity throughout the Church, and to cast off iniquity therefrom. For the Spirit of God will not dwell in unholy temples.” – John Taylor

IGNORED WITNESS, 1991: “The Church does not condone such heinous and vile conduct. Rather, we condemn in the harshest of terms such treatment of God’s precious children. Let the child be rescued, nurtured, loved, and healed. Let the offender be brought to justice, to accountability, for his actions and receive professional treatment to curtail such wicked and devilish conduct. When you and I know of such conduct and fail to take action to eradicate it, we become part of the problem. We share part of the guilt. We experience part of the punishment.” – Thomas S. Monson , October 1991. I was 18 and had recently come through incidents of domestic violence that my stake presidency was fully aware of.

Again, we hear of fraudulent acts sometimes, and we permit them to be passed over. What are laws for? What are Bishops’ Courts and High Councils for? That when men transgress the laws of God, they shall be tried according to the laws of the Church, and if found guilty, and are worthy of such action, they shall be cast out; that the pure and the righteous may be sustained, and the wicked and corrupt, the ungodly and impure, be dealt with according to the laws of God. This is necessary in order to maintain purity throughout the Church, and to cast off iniquity therefrom. For the Spirit of God will not dwell in unholy temples.”John Taylor

IGNORED WITNESS, April 2002: “How tragic and utterly disgusting a phenomenon is wife abuse. Any man in this Church who abuses his wife, who demeans her, who insults her, who exercises unrighteous dominion over her is unworthy to hold the priesthood. Though he may have been ordained, the heavens will withdraw, the Spirit of the Lord will be grieved, and it will be amen to the authority of the priesthood of that man.  Any man who engages in this practice is unworthy to hold a temple recommend. ” – Gordon B. Hinckley, April 2002. I was 28, seeking a divorce from an abusive husband.

Again, we hear of fraudulent acts sometimes, and we permit them to be passed over. What are laws for?What are Bishops’ Courts and High Councils for? That when men transgress the laws of God, they shall be tried according to the laws of the Church, and if found guilty, and are worthy of such action, they shall be cast out; that the pure and the righteous may be sustained, and the wicked and corrupt, the ungodly and impure, be dealt with according to the laws of God.This is necessary in order to maintain purity throughout the Church, and to cast off iniquity therefrom. For the Spirit of God will not dwell in unholy temples.” – John Taylor

IGNORED WITNESS, October 2002: “May I again mention a matter with which I have dealt at length in the past. I speak of the evil and despicable sin of child abuse.  We cannot tolerate it. We will not tolerate it. Anyone who abuses a child may expect Church discipline as well as possible legal action.  Child abuse is an affront toward God. Jesus spoke of the beauty and innocence of children. To anyone who has an inclination that could lead to the abuse of children, I say in the strongest language of which I am capable, discipline yourself. Seek help before you do injury to a child and bring ruin upon yourself. – Gordon B. Hinckley, October 2002. I was 29, still seeking a divorce from an abusive husband, who was dragging me through legal hell for daring to do so, for daring to bring his abuse of me and of my daughter to the fore.  “Now shall you deal with ME, oh [princess], and all the powers of hell!” – from Walt Disney’s Sleeping Beauty.

Again, we hear of fraudulent acts sometimes, and we permit them to be passed over. What are laws for? What are Bishops’ Courts and High Councils for? That when men transgress the laws of God, they shall be tried according to the laws of the Church, and if found guilty, and are worthy of such action, they shall be cast out; that the pure and the righteous may be sustained, and the wicked and corrupt, the ungodly and impure, be dealt with according to the laws of God. This is necessary in order to maintain purity throughout the Church, and to cast off iniquity therefrom. For the Spirit of God will not dwell in unholy temples.” – John Taylor

IGNORED WITNESS, April 1979: “There is no provision in the teachings or doctrines of the Church for any member to be dishonest, or immoral, or irresponsible, or even careless.

Have you not been taught all of your life, that if a member of the Church, particularly one in high position, is unworthy in any way, he acts against the standards of the Church? He is not in harmony with the teachings, the doctrines, or with the leadership of the Church…

Now, does anyone holding a responsible position in the Church ever act unworthily? The answer: of course, it happens. It is an exception, but it happens.

When we call a man to be a stake president or a bishop, for instance, we say, in effect: “Here is a congregation. You are to preside over them. They are under constant temptation, and you are to see that they win that battle. Govern them in such a way that they can succeed. Devote yourself unselfishly to this cause. And, incidentally, while you preside, you are not excused from your own trials and temptations. They will, in fact, be increased because you are a leader. Win your own battle as best you can.”

If a leader does conduct himself unworthily, his actions fly against everything the Church stands for, and he is subject to release. It has even been our sad responsibility, on some few occasions, to excommunicate leaders from the Church who have been guilty of very serious illegal or immoral conduct. That should increase, not shake, your faith in the Church, or of a nonmember toward it…

Unless you are a participant and have full knowledge, better: “Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged.” – Boyd K. Packer, April 1979. I was 5 years old. And a certain temple-endowed someone had already committed adultery once. After decades of hiding it, he confessed, and his “punishment” was merely disfellowship. When I was 17, and attending my freshman year of college, he was serving in the bishopric of my new ward under the now stake-president who had meted out the disfellowship as his bishop. I was not there as a participant nor did I have full knowledge, but he did. Obviously, the Catholic Church is not the only faith that glosses serious sexual sins over and turns a blind eye to the potential dangers to the flock of an unrehabilitated clergy member; especially to the lambs unawares.

I just cannot understand this insipid hand-slapping that goes on, hermano-a-hermano. I got smashed to powder and dust as a 19-year-old, unendowed, naive KID and yet, TWICE, I have seen endowed ordained men go prancing away from serious sin to go pick Elder Holland’s proverbial marigolds! Maybe everybody is just trying to follow this admonition from Joseph Smith, which I think is HORRID. “All organized bodies have their peculiar evils, weaknesses and difficulties. The object is to make those not so good reform and return to the path of virtue that they may be numbered with the good,and even hold the keys of power.” TPJS, p. 38. WHY? WHY? WHY? So they can, with said keys of POWER, just turn around and do it again… or worse??? Sexual sin is MORE than a “peculiar evil, weakness or difficulty.” It is an extreme threat. It turns rams into wolves who would like nothing better than to feast on ewes and lambs. Go read the entire chapter of Ezekiel 34 and tell me again how a known sexual deviant is ever a good candidate for election as shepherd. Go read a translation of Goethe’s Heidenröslein and explain to me why the woman (the little rose) is the one who is blamed for her victimization and condemned for her self-defense while the oppressor is memorialized, pitied and enthroned in song and verse. If the rose has been picked, that means she is DEAD! Yet all the Priesthood brethren just turns their backs and ignore the wilted rose on the ground, turning their attention instead to wringing their hands over the fact that their poor Lausbub was “victimized”by a few thorn jabs he deserved!

I can’t have anything to do with such a wretch—a man that would enter into a family and debauch another man’s wife while he was away, thus taking advantage of the circumstances in which she was placed.. . . Apostles, Prophets, Pastors, Teachers, Deacons, and High Councils are placed in the Church as they formerly were, for the perfecting of the Saints; (Ephesians 4:11-12); not to pass over iniquity because of certain influences.No influence of any kind ought to control you, only the pure principles of eternal truth as laid down in the LAW of God. No man can inherit a celestial kingdom who does not keep a celestial law (D&C 88:22). – John Taylor And it is for the Priesthood—the Presidents of Stakes, Bishops, Priests, Teachers and Deacons—to be governed by the law of God, and to see that there is no iniquity prevailing in the Church. We have no right to condone this and to change the other, and to think that we are going to save men by permitting all kinds of iniquity to abound. …Matters are sometimes allowed to go on to that extent that hard feelings, division, contention and strife arise, and all this because Teachers, Bishops and others do not do their duty. In our Bishops’ Courts, and in our High Councils, we must be governed by the law of God, and not by our notions and sympathies, or anything of that kind, and not because it is somebody’s son, or somebody’s brother, or somebody’s relative… We must not be governed by sympathies. My sympathies in the case that I related were very strong; but I must not be governed by sympathies—I must be governed by the law of God. – John Taylor

Shall we not let the lascivious man wallow in his corruption? No. According to certain principles that are laid down in the book of Doctrine and Covenants in regard to those things, those who have entered into the new and everlasting covenant, and have taken upon themselves certain obligations, if they commit adultery it is positively said they shall be DESTROYED (D&C 132:41). Now, can you change that, or can I change it? No, I cannot, and you cannot; – John Taylor

destroyed – Demolished; pulled down; ruined; annihilated; devoured; swept away

 

THE FROZEN TURKEY WITNESS/REPRIMAND, 2005: I HEARD YOU LOUD AND CLEAR. “There are so many in our day who are unwilling to forgive and forget. Children cry and wives weep because fathers and husbands continue to bring up little shortcomings that are really of no importance. And there also are many women who would make a mountain out of every little offending molehill of word or deed. What a great story that is, greater because it actually happened, and that it happened in tough old New York. Who can feel anything but admiration for this woman who forgave the young man who might have taken her life? I know this is a delicate and sensitive thing of which I am speaking. There are hardened criminals who may have to be locked up. There are unspeakable crimes, such as deliberate murder and rape, that justify harsh penalties. But there are some who could be saved from long, stultifying years in prison because of an unthoughtful, foolish act. Somehow forgiveness, with love and tolerance, accomplishes miracles that can happen in no other way.” – President Gordon B. Hinckley, October 2005 General Conference.  I was 32, and had, upon their request and with the support and agreement of my stake president, written a detailed letter to the First Presidency. I explained what had happened to me and what was still happening to me. I couldn’t help but feel like President Hinckley was addressing me directly, for his comments cut me to the heart and made me feel totally condemned for being so apparently unforgiving of a man who I think IS a hardened criminal who SHOULD be locked up and who DID commit unspeakable crimes, including 6 years of marital rape. So, instead, under pressure and repeated insistance from every officer of the priesthood in Utah who were involved in this matter, including, I have been told, the First Presidency themselves, but with the sad sympathy of my stake president, I bowed down to the dust and submitted to their will. My answer was that though I did not, could not and probably never would trust my ex-husband, I trusted the First Presidency and the Twelve. If they wanted the reinstatement, I guess they could have it. I still stand by that witness, but with a deep gash of sadness permanently slashed across my soul (Proverbs 27:6). Apparently it is better the eyes of all these Priesthood brethren that my children and I should suffer those “long, stultifying years in [the] prison” of my ex-husband’s renewed pomposity, arrogance and open continuation in unrighteous dominion, only now accompanied by wearing the shiny new seal of the full, renewed sanction of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

Again, we hear of fraudulent acts sometimes, and we permit them to be passed over. What are laws for? What are Bishops’ Courts and High Councils for? That when men transgress the laws of God, they shall be tried according to the laws of the Church, and if found guilty, and are worthy of such action, they shall be cast out; that the pure and the righteous may be sustained, and the wicked and corrupt, the ungodly and impure, be dealt with according to the laws of God. This is necessary in order to maintain purity throughout the Church, and to cast off iniquity therefrom. For the Spirit of God will not dwell in unholy temples.” – John Taylor

And God Will Not Be Mocked.

“For God Will Not Be Mocked… ” Really? Do you expect me to believe that when someone who Taylor taught SHALL be destroyed, based entirely on scriptural law… now works here?

WITNESS/SLAP IN THE FACE, 2015: “Some single women who have been abused by men (such as in a divorce) mistakenly confuse the priesthood with male abuse and become suspicious of any priesthood authority. A person who has had a bad experience with a particular electrical appliance should not forego using the power of electricity.” Elder Dallin H. Oaks, October 2005. I was 32, remarried with a baby, but still dealing with my former abuser and his knew-not-Joseph priesthood leaders in another state, Utah, where he’d deliberately moved and remarried in order to get reinstated, a plan he had already hatched as far back as 1994. I do not find these words particularly comforting, then or now. If I did not believe his intent was pure, I would have held to my original reaction that this apostle was belittling me and mocking my lifetime of pain at the hand of men who all professed to hold the power of God. 100% of my abusers were ordained, endowed LDS men and woman.

So what is the woman in your example to do, Elder Oaks, if she keeps running into bad experiences with officially sanctioned electrical appliances?  Because I have scoured the LDS literature trying to find that answer, and it’s never clearly, succinctly stated. It’s only brushed at and barely admitted that a priesthood leader can truly be an evil man. Nevertheless, in today’s church, we are told to be silent and to follow in faith anyway. Baaaaaaaaaa, ram, ewe! Sheep be true! But this is NOT AT ALL what was taught in the early LDS Church! For example:

President Joseph Smith read the 14th chapter of Ezekiel… said the Lord had declared by the prophet that the people should each one stand for himself and depend on no man or men in that state of corruption of the Jewish church – that righteous persons could only deliver their own souls – applied it to the present state of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints – said if the people departed from the Lord, they must fall – that they were depending on the Prophet, hence were darkened in their minds, in consequence of neglecting the duties devolving upon themselves.” – TPJS, p. 237-238, 1842

Do not, brethren, put your trust in man though he be a bishop, an apostle, or a president. If you do, they will fail you at some time or place; they will do wrong, or seem to, and your support will be gone.” – Apostle George Q. Cannon, Gospel Truth, 1:319

If a man is determined to expose the lives of his friends, let that man go to the devil and to destruction alone.” – President Brigham Young

And none are required to tamely and blindly submit to a man because he has a portion of the priesthood. We have heard men who hold the priesthood remark that they would do anything they were told to do by those who preside over them if they knew it was wrong; but such obedience as this is worse than folly to us; it is slavery in the extreme; and the man who would willingly degrade himself should not claim a rank among intelligent beings, until he turns from his folly. A man of God… would despise the idea. Others, in the extreme exercise of their almighty authority have taught that such obedience was necessary, and that no matter what the saints were told to do by their presidents, they should do it without asking any questions. When Elders of Israel will so far indulge in these extreme notions of obedience as to teach them to the people, it is generally because they have it in their minds to do wrong themselves.” – Samuel W. Richards, editor of the Millenial Star, then serving as president of the British Isles mission. Millennial Star, vol 14 #38, p.593-595, Nov 13 1852.

Well, Elder Oaks, this woman has two choices. To stop believing in electricity or to become deeply distrustful of electrical appliances. Well, I choose to still believe in “electricity”, or the priesthood power of God, because I have had experiences with it that are real and undeniable.  But I can not believe any longer that all or even most electrical appliances are good. In 2015 it simply isn’t true, and it’s gotten worse the older I have gotten. Truly excellent, reliable, trustworthy, kind, godly “appliances” are the rare few. They are the exception. And why? Joseph Smith knew why (D&C 121:39), as have prophets for ages (Ezekiel 34). Yet this is all swept away with your witness:

It’s wrong to criticize leaders of the Church, even if the criticism is true. – Elder Dallin H Oaks, 2007 PBS Documentary, “The Mormons”

Elder Oaks, I criticize because something is very, very wrong. Please never forget that there are TWO currents involved in electricity. I refused to be persuaded, convinced or further remain in deception that they are one and the same. “To deny the existence of Satan and the reality of his evil power and influence is as foolish as ignoring the existence of electricity. We know electricity is real; we see and feel its power. We also know about war, hatred, backbiting, false witnesses, cheating, and the broken hearts and broken homes caused by the moral sins of modern Babylon. Do members of this church feel a lack of evidence in the reality of Satan and his power?” -Elder David B. Haight, Power of Evil, Ensign July 1973. YES. YES, I THINK THEY DO.

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AND FURTHERMORE:

MAJOR ACTS OF UNRIGHTEOUS DOMINION:

  • I have been cornered in an office, as a single woman, and badgered by my ecclesiastical leader, with encouragement from my father (his counselor), for my “incorrect choice” in this leader’s opinion, of homeschooling my children and of hoping for remarriage and moving on to return to school in the meantime.  This interview lasted something like 3 hours, but in the end, after I was distraught and had screamed my unbudging testimony at him, through tears, he was convinced of my sincerity and of my true repentance and conversion to the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
  • I have been called a troublemaker by a bishop against whom I defended and supported a innocent female friend whose husband was abusing her, spreading lies and rumors about her inside and outside of the ARP program, and who I personally witnessed verbally threaten her in their home.
  • My husband and I were released as seminary teachers when we were honest about grades and attendance, and didn’t give everyone the automatic A that had traditionally been given, for years, by everyone else. We also stopped a few other ward traditions connected to seminary that we felt were detrimental to the true purpose of the program and spent the allotted money for party pizzas and weekly breakfast sweets on much-needed new hymnbooks and LDS instructional materials. At the release, the bishop informed my husband that he was allowing his wife to do too much, to “run him”, and even though he acknowledged that he had allowed me to be my husband’s assistant, co-teacher and sometimes substitute, “Bishop This-Is-MY-Kingdom” informed my husband that he only had called and set apart HIM to be seminary teacher! His wife was NOT CALLED!! We were baffled by his comments and by his false assumptions, and frankly, by his misogyny. My husband and I work as a team, and, generally speaking, his opinion is mine and mine is his… though he is the introvert and I am the extrovert, we are of the same mind and heart. Why do leaders almost always make assumptions like this and become offended by “a girl who’s got a brain, who always speaks her mind”
  • I have been called in an church office during church hours, without my husband, assuming it was an interview for a calling. Instead I was badgered by my ecclesiastical leader, for my incorrect choice, in his opinion, of homeschooling my children. He refused to drop the issue and kept persecuting me until I called down the powers of the stake president. He never treated my husband with this manner of disrespect and unrighteous dominion, only talking with him once and accepting his stance. So he zeroed in on trying to change me, instead.
  • I have had my choice to homeschool my high-school child extremely discouraged and hedged up by a stake president who would not allow us to do home-study or call a teacher for our local unit. Instead, he expected us to drive a total of 80 minutes, back and forth, 5 days a week, in a household with very limited income and only one vehicle. The message was: Submit. Your daughter belongs in public school and taking the public school bus ride to the county seat/ location of the stake center, just like everyone else. When we moved away from this stake, partially because of this policy of unrighteous dominion, suddenly a seminary teacher was found and local classes began for all the youth in our former branch. Oh, and that former stake president is now a General Authority: a member of the First Quorum of the Seventy. Do I have a problem with that? Yes, I do. Seems like somebody got called up, set apart and sanctified for being a jerk.
  • I have been blackballed and viewed as some kind of judgemental Broom-Hilda for confidentially reporting to my stake ecclesiastical leaders, as I have been trained is my duty, about my knowledge of the transgression of a person under church discipline resuming and not fully stopping, the very action for which they were under discipline. Why did I do it? Because there was another person, a long time ago, who had his hand slapped for a serious transgression, and a few years later he found me, and wrecked me life. And he did what he did with full premeditation, fully believing that D&C 42:26 applied to him. Apparently, in my case, nobody knew these teachings of John Taylor, not even the First Presidency? Or they disregarded them out of sympathy? In any case, I opened my mouth to spare a beloved friend future pain. Yes, hoping that maybe they might slap him with a little more discipline, a little harder, so that there wouldn’t be some innocent like me, in the future, getting hurt by him again. Instead, they dismissed me and summarily reinstated him within weeks of the disclosure, publicly, and in full three-man force at our local unit. These actions and attitudes deeply hurt my testimony of the authority and righteousness of that particular stake presidency.
  • I was called into a presiding office in an auxiliary over what I think was an interpersonal squabble between the then-leader and the then Primary Presidency. My setting apart was done, publicly, in front of the Primary children, which made me feel both awkward and embarassed. I felt like I was being made an example of, like some kind of tool to punish and somehow summarily exclude the former Primary President. Then, a new unit priesthood leader and presidency were called. Soon thereafter, I was summarily released from my calling for the sin of refusing to comply with a request/command from my presiding authorities. I refused because this request was not in the handbook and in my opinion, had nothing to do with my stewardship. I also refused because the order of priorities and programs for my auxiliary were already listed in the handbook, were being disregarded, and were my DUTIES. Yet, I was not enabled to fulfill any of them. Here I was, struggling to get some support to run the program with few workers, some of whom had yet to learn diligence. I was told I could not have any more workers because our unit was too small and too short of people willing to take any callings. However, this other request/command (basically turning my auxilliary into a bi-annual activity committee) was top of the priority list, and somehow my counselors and I were expected to jump up immediately and do it without question. (How high, sir?) Regardless of my own impressions or revelation on the matter, I was expected to continue in an unrighteous tradition of Trunk-or-Treat for the whole unit – not just Primary – which is an activity that is neither doctrinal, wholesome nor promoting anything from Article of Faith 13. No matter how you dress or cute it up Halloween is a Lucifer holiday, and increasingly so. I insisted on protecting my lambs, ceasing this false tradition, or at least keeping it out of the Church. How come I can’t get revelation, only they can? Is it not also their duty to sustain me in righteousness in my calling?
  • I have written an honest questioning letter about these issues to a General Authority, only to have, IMHO, my confidence betrayed; my letter sent back to my stake president, who showed up unannounced at my Sunday meetings and sprang an interview request upon me. I only found out during the interview about the letter, and then had a lot of questions to answer. Did anything ever happen to my abuser? No. Nothing. Nothing at all. And now he has my son.
  • I learned that both my former stake president and I were lied to by my abuser’s ecclesiastical authorities. I was told I was the only injured party who felt my abuser should not be reinstated in the Church. I learned from another injured party that she had also objected to his reinstatement and had also been told she was “the only hold-out”. This hurt my testimony of priesthood governance in the Church… and the whole situation shook my testimony of the General Authorities.
  • I have had two children falsely accused, black-balled and persecuted by a bishop and his counselor, while they let known transgressors – their peers – go free; even calling these disobedient youth to offices of leadership.
  • When dealing with a teenaged son who was rebelling at home, we specifically requested of our local and stake leadership NOT to call our boy as a quorum president. We felt he was unworthy and would be a poor example to the younger, still-obedient and tender-hearted boys in YM. Our request and denial of permission was summarily ignored. One Sunday when my husband was at work, I was called into the room, where, to my shock and anger, he was set apart right in front of my face. Talk about a slap.
  • I am not even mentioning here the events leading to, during and after my first marriage.

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MINOR ACTS OF UNRIGHTEOUS DOMINION

  • While waiting to work with the authorities on my reinstatement, I was quite openly avoided by a member of a stake presidency like I had some kind of spiritual leprosy. He was visibly relieved and glad to inform me that their presidency had been notified that they would all soon be released. HIs words, “So, thankfully, I don’t have to deal with you. You’ll have to wait to work with the next stake presidency.”This man was highly respected and beloved by my grandma.
  • I have been informed by a dear bishop that other men in our church unit were “uncomfortable “with my choice to breastfeed  my baby, who would not stay under the nursing cover, and asked to stay in the bathroom with my child. God forbid that the reformed slut-whore-temptress should expose her nipples to the rest of us, ya know? We might fall prey to her wiles!  Nowhere, in any unit of the church, where I have had an infant, has anyone tolerated nursing in the building outside of the bathroom. This uber-prudishness is historically and physiologically ridiculous. There are paintings of moments in LDS church history where women are openly nursing their children. Nobody ever asks a man to eat his lunch or fall asleep in a stinky, uncomfortable toilet cubicle. I have even been told to nurse my baby in the bathroom at a temple visitor’s center.
  • Most local ecclesiastical leaders are totally uncomfortable with hearing about my history of abuse, let alone dealing with it’s continuing consequences and ramifications. A few have been helpful and kind, but most have just wanted to run away and hide. Most have actually said, “I don’t believe it” or “all these things couldn’t have possibly happened to one person. [You must be exaggerating or lying… The conclusions you have drawn are incorrect… the account you are telling me MUST be very biased and one-sided.]”I have had a few rewarding moments where those same men have returned to me and confessed that they have learned by their own experiences that I testified truly to them. I’ve also had another bishop side with my ex.
  • During the divorce, 10 of my ex-husbands friends, all LDS, most temple-endowed, a few even High Priests, and at least two knowing his character and former history/actions, lined up behind him and witnessed that he was not abusive in any way toward me or the children. Good old boys club? I can’t help but believe it.
  • I was asked about the musical talents of sister in our branch by my father, who was in the branch presidency. I told him that I wasn’t certain if she played the piano, but I knew she had one. She later told me that these words were used “The Lord has inspired us, by direct revelation, to call you as Primary Pianist.” When she informed him that she didn’t play the piano, it took some effort to convince him that she really truly couldn’t fulfill the calling. Her testimony of revelation and Priesthood governance was hurt by this experience… and I felt partly responsible for it.
  • I have been initially accepted, my perspective and counsel on domestic violence regarded with respect and truly listened to by a former stake president.  Then, without explanation, he abruptly rejected me as a dangerous femme, wanted nothing more to do with me, and haughtily told me HE was in charge of revelation and direction for the stake, not ME! I hadn’t presumed at all to usurp any of his authority! My intent was to teach, open eyes, inform, share, enlighten, so that other women and families would not have to suffer. I suspect Bishop This-Is-MY-Kingdom got wind of things and “warned” him about me. My faith is still a little shaken because the stake president I deeply respect and honor called Bishop This-is-MY-Kingdom as the bishop of my ward AND bore witness that he knew, by the Spirit, who our next stake president was going to be: (the president who rejected me).
  • I have stood on the sidewalk of a stake center, innocently waiting for a ride to come pick me up, and been within earshot of two bishops totally trash-talking about a family that was moving from one bishop’s ward into the other’s. Bishop #1 warned Bishop #2 about “things to watch out for in these guys. Don’t let them fool you.” I have felt/wondered ever since then if this is what has happened to our family; if this is what happens to everyone: judged and found wanting before they’ve even said hello and had a chance to introduce themselves. My parents did the same thing to my sister and her non-member husband, calling her bishop ahead of time and giving him their judgmental low-down about the husband. I sincerely believe that at that time, my sister had a small hope that her husband might be persuaded to join. They encountered vinegar instead of honey in their new ward family, and within 2 years my sister left the Mormon church, including asking to have her name removed from the rolls and joined her husband’s faith…. raising all their children in it.
  • I have followed the Spirit of the Lord and prepared comments about family history work. It made no sense, but I felt that I needed to be prepared to be called upon, in an impromptu moment, to bear my testimony of this work at stake conference. Then I sat in the audience at that stake conference and watched it all play out. Either talks ran short or a speaker did not show up, just as I had anticipated and expected because of the spiritual foreknowledge given me through my impression.  Indeed, I saw and felt the eyes of the leadership land on me, just as I had foreseen. I watched them confer, still looking at me. And then… I was not called upon. Instead, they chose to end that session of conference early. I don’t know what this meant, but it hurt my testimony… both of the influence of the Spirt (was I really feeling it?) and of their being called of God and/or heeding his voice. It was difficult for me to follow them after that.
  • I have seen a misogynistic member of a local-unit presidency publicly scold his own wife from the pulpit (and generally treat her with little affection or regard), while at the same time, extolling certain young women and Relief Society sisters on pedestals of do-no-wrong adoration.  Meanwhile, he rejects other females of virtue and light who are not his favorites in the same dismissive and caustic manner as he does his wife, including my angel of a daughter – in public / in front of her peers, with harshness, cruelty and the extreme determination to be the one who is always right (James 3:11).
  • I have been told by an ecclesiastical unit head that he was told by his presiding officer in the stake that if a person came to him during a temple recommend interview, and he knew that person was not telling the truth / not worthy, he was STILL to issue a temple recommend. Why? Because his signature and the signature of your stake leader meant that YOU verified that you are worthy, and NOT that the leaders verified that you were. This is not what John Taylor taught!  If this is the case church-wide, o Maranatha!!!! (D&C 112:25). I can hardly bear to think of it when sitting in the temple now. Talk about wheat and tares.
  • I have had the Spirit be very strong during a meeting, and then, whoosh!, get blown out like a candle when a certain person comes to the podium or opens his mouth. Everybody kowtows to him because he is a well-manicured, smooth-talking man of some influence in our community. I don’t really know the man; I only know the feelings/impressions that come to my mind and heart. So, regardless of who he is or what his calling is or what his profession is, I remain silent and I avoid him.  So who is wrong… me? or the members throwing themselves in gushing adoration at his feet?

NOT “BITTER”, NOT “APOSTATE”… JUST FURIOUS:

THIS IS WHAT RIGHTEOUS ANGER LOOKS LIKE, AND WHY.

I AM FURIOUS BECAUSE IF THIS DOCTRINE HAD CONTINUED TO HAVE BEEN TAUGHT, AS IT WAS DURING PRESIDENT TAYLOR’S TIME,  MY ABUSER WOULD NEVER HAVE TOUCHED ME!  MY POSTERITY AND CURRENT HUSBAND WOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN ROBBED! AN ENDOWED PRIESTHOOD HOLDER, WHO WAS ONLY DISFELLOWSHIPPED THE FIRST TIME HE COMMITTED ADULTERY (strike one, of known strikes) OUTSIDE OF HIS COVENANTS, HE ASSUMED D&C 42:25-26 APPLIED TO HIM, AND THAT THEREFORE HE STILL HAD LICENSE; STILL HAD A “GET OUT OF JAIL FREE CARD.” THIS CASE WENT ALL THE WAY UP TO THE FIRST PRESIDENCY (strike two, of known strikes). EVEN FOR A NON-ENDOWED PERSON, THE LAW OF THE CHURCH IS TWO STRIKES AND YOU’RE OUT-OUT-OUT! TELL ME, WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO THINK?! (D&C 72:45-46) THE SCRIPTURES ARE THE SCRIPTURES… or aren’t they?

I LAUGH WHILE YOU ATTEMPT TO CONVINCE ME OF ANY RIGHTEOUS FRUITS FROM MY PERSONAL PERSECUTOR, OPPRESSOR AND THIEF OF POSTERITY, BECAUSE I CAN SHOW YOU BASKETS OF BITTER FRUITS THAT I HAVE HARVESTED FROM THIS PARTICULAR TREE OVER THE YEARS.  YET, BY YOUR AUTHORITY, EXERCISED IN THE NAME OF ALMIGHTY GOD, THIS MAN HAS BEEN PETTED AND PROTECTED: FULLY REINSTATED, IS A TEMPLE WORKER, AND NOW HE HAS THE HEART AND MIND OF MY OLDEST SON!!

WHAT DO I WANT?! WHAT I HAVE ALWAYS WANTED!!! I WANT MY RIGHTS WITHIN THE LAW AND MY CLAIMS UPON THE EXECUTORS OF THAT LAW HONORED IN FULL!! I WANT MYSELF AND MY POSTERITY TO BE AT PEACE AND FULLY PROTECTED WITHIN THE HOUSEHOLD OF GOD, FROM RAVENOUS WOLVES, HIRELINGS AND FALSE PRIESTS (EZEKIEL 34, JACOB 2:31-33, 35)!!!! WHEN YOU SEE THEM AMONG US THAT THEY BE SWIFTLY REMOVED INSTEAD OF TOLERATED, BEFORE THEY HURT SOMEBODY ELSE!! I WANT MERCY AND FORGIVENESS TO BE SHOWN THE SINCERELY REPENTANT, AND NONE AT ALL TO THE CAREFULLY WEEPING HYPOCRITES (crying only to you judges, never to us offended HEBREWS12:17); NONE AT ALL TO THE REPEAT-OFFENDERS IN BREAKING TEMPLE-COVENANTS WHO CONTINUE TO SHOW BY THEIR ACTIONS THAT THEY ARE NOT WORTHY TO BEAR THE HOLY PRIESTHOOD, LET ALONE HOLD OFFICE, A RECOMMEND OR ANY ELIGIBILITY FOR THE BLESSINGS OF THE ATONEMENT (MOSIAH 3:11-12 )!!

NOW THAT PRESIDENT TAYLOR HAS EXPLAINED THE CASE SO CLEARLY, I REALIZE THAT MY CASE IS AND ALWAYS HAS BEEN AN UNJUST, UNMERCIFUL TRAVESTY OF THE GOVERNANCE, LAWS AND POWERS OF THE PRIESTHOOD OF GOD! MY ABUSER SHOULD HAVE BEEN AND AT THIS PRESENT TIME SHOULD NOW BE CAST OUT, AND CAST OUT PERMANENTLY. I will never cease to witness publicly, and someday I shall witness it again before the very bar of the Almighty God!

if found guilty, and are worthy of such action, they shall be cast out; that the pure and the righteous may be sustained

When we weigh in the balance the difference between honor and loyalty, there comes a time when in order to achieve honor one must determine the value of that to which he will give his loyalty. If it calls for a surrender of honor then it is false. – Alvin R. Dyer, April 1965

“The common judges of Israel, our bishops and stake presidents, must not stand by and fail to apply disciplinary measures within their jurisdiction, as set forth plainly in the laws of the Lord and procedures as set forth in plain and simple instructions that cannot be misunderstood. Never must we allow supposed mercy to the unrepentant sinner to rob the justice upon which true repentance from sinful practices is predicated.” – Harold B. Lee, January 1973

 

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The Prophet, John Taylor, circa 1950.

So it is little surprise that I have yet to see the rank-and- file male membership of the Church take abuse seriously, or fear losing their membership, church discipline and/or the revoking of temple or priesthood privileges. It isn’t generally happening. It isn’t a common thing. The prophets and apostles keep preaching, and the Priesthood just keep ignoring and not enforcing, while innocents continue to weep tears of blood (Jacob 2:35, D&C 19:18). Richard G. Scott, an apostle who in my opinion, bravely pioneered the reintroduction of abuse back into a topic of discussion in LDS circles, is now dead, and I see his comforting words, largely ignored by Priesthood holders, fading away again.

This isn’t a matter of bitterness against men or an inability or lack of forgiveness (I have a whole other post addressing that false accusation). This is a matter of doctrine, obedience to law, and justice for the innocent. My mother would say that when you make a threat and then don’t prove true to your word, your followers quickly learn that “your word is not gold.” And still our General Authorities wonder why women are leaving the Church in droves? It is because they fear it will never be fair because all of their judges are male, and not understanding how the Priesthood differs from other forms of authority, feel permanently disenfranchised (3 Nephi 6:27-30).

Why is it always “Obey your leaders, even if they are wrong, and if you ever disobey, YOU are obviously an apostate. You must be wrong, you were not called of God and you do not have the Priesthood.” I thought we were commanded to obey and sustain our leaders in righteousness. I thought we were responsible for our individual choices, regardless of what our leaders may want us to do (Christofferson, Free Forever …). I thought women WERE called of God, via our divine feminine nature, motherhood, etc and our being the supernal, crowning creation of God.

I have gotten over those feelings of fear and distrust toward male leadership in general, but only because I make myself take things on a case-by-case, person-by-person basis. I think I have forever lost the blanket trust I gave to all Mormon men, by virtue of the Priesthood they were given. I think, because of my history, I cannot help that I will always question if that Priesthood is borne worthily. I struggle most with the fear of men and the feeling of being trapped and in danger, with a near-overpowering desire to withdraw when I am forced to interact with stranger brethren in the temple. I have had a few unpleasant experiences at the veil, even a few spiritual witnesses that the worker interacting with me is, in fact, not worthy to be there.

I have also battled and slain the demon of the very powerful temptation to just walk away from this Church.  This has not come without great personal soul-searching and struggle, especially because I have other family members who would welcome and support my departure; especially after studying the lives, works and apparent privileges within the Priesthood unknown to me as once exercised by early women of the Church like Eliza R. Snow. Why were they revoked? No answer as yet has come.

Therefore, I certainly understand the apprehensions of other women like me… and I, along with them, am waiting for a full, pure answer, without hypocrisy or guile. One that makes logical sense to my soul and acknowledges and answers the reasons why things are different now than they once were in the early Church among the early sisters, and is, in every way, persuasive, long-suffering, gentle, meek, kind, delivered in love unfeigned and based upon the pure knowledge of God. I am no LDS feminist. I do not at all desire to usurp office, administration or authority within the Church… the men may keep that heavy responsibility with my full consent… but I do wonder why I am not allowed to be a queen and a priestess unto my husband within the walls of our own home, or wherever he may be called upon to bless, lift, minister and assist others within our sphere of acquaintance. Logically, if neither he nor I can enter the highest degree of Glory without one another, and we are commanded to be one flesh, and it is not good for man to be alone, then why are we separated and prevented from sharing this highest of all powers with each other in the home, I assisting him in the laying on of hands, as an help meet for him?

I am waiting to believe again, with the security I used to have when I was a little girl, that the presiding governors holding the Priesthood of God, treasure and protect me, and really love and honor the Word of God as much as I have always been taught that they do, and therefore I can rely on the loving arms of their patriarchal authority and fatherly stewardship. It would provide me with a sense of peace and trust that I have lost now, in anyone and everyone but the First Presidency, the Quorum of the Twelve, my own husband… and a few good men…. these men whose actions have been true, these men whom the Spirit of Truth has witnessed to me are exactly what I crave, and can be implicitly trusted.

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In response to Proverbs 27:6 we have D&C 6:37

Ye Elders of Israel, when you raise your hand to the square, do you really mean it, and do you fully intend to live the words that you promise? Or is it just a ritual? In a place to be seen of men, as seemingly righteous and faithful?  To be trusted is better than to be loved, and oh, if only I could freely trust all men within the household of faith again… and feel that when I call him Brother, he really is one to me and to my posterity.

Could I believe if you stood here transparent

And through you I could look in His eyes?

Could I believe if I saw right inside and there was no disguise?

Could I believe if you really were like Him?

If you lived all the words that He said?

If it was clear that you held in your heart

What you know in your head ?

Could I believe, could I believe ?

Looking at you, could I believe?

Could I believe?

 

 

I fear the very same repetition of deliberate ignorance in regard to the masterpiece of an address given recently by President Russell M. Nelson in April 2016 general conference. In my opinion, it is Jacob 2 all over again, only as updated Version 2016. I cried through everything he said after he uttered”He has no power.”I cried because, through Elder Nelson’s remaining words of love and remonstrance, of defense for people like me, I felt heard and acknowledged and justified and known by my Heavenly Father. I cried again, with joy, when my eternal companion came home. Here is my social media post about my experience, as a woman, hearing Elder Nelson’s talk, along with with my brethren, live, on the evening it was delivered:
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The Unjust Judge and the Importuning Widow

 I will not lie down and I will not go quietly.

After a LIFETIME of being taught and expected to keep enduring this, I am standing and declaring that I will not lie down and I will not go quietly!  My witness is that there ARE drunken sailors on the Good Ship Zion: power-drunken sailors; and I’m not going to just sit here and take it, “like a nice little girl”, anymore. I’m going from Molly Mormon to Molly Pitcher. Turn this ship that I love around, to honestly, wholly and sincerely voyage in the paths which have been repeatedly laid out by our Father and his prophets!!! Enforce the laws and standards of Church Discipline equally and justly for women AND men, especially for those who wear the garment of the Holy Priesthood!

DESTRUCTION QUOTES:
Therefore, this is my counsel, that you retain your lands, even unto the uttermost, and employ every lawful means to seek redress of your enemies; and pray to God, day and night, to return you in peace and in safety to the lands of your inheritance: [translation: lands = my children, who are my only inheritance!] and when the judge fail you, appeal unto the executive; and when the executive fail you, appeal unto the president; and when the president fail you, and all laws fail you, and the humanity of the people fail you, and all things else fail you but God alone, and you continue to weary Him with your importunings, as the poor woman did the unjust judge, He will not fail to execute judgment upon your enemies, and to avenge His own elect that cry unto Him day and night. Behold, He will not fail you! He will come with ten thousand of His Saints, and all His adversaries shall be destroyed with the breath of His lips! All those who keep their inheritances, notwithstanding they should be beaten and driven,shall be likened unto the wise virgins who took oil in their lamps.” – Joseph Smith, Jr.  (TPJS, p.36. Original source “A Letter from the Prophet Joseph Smith to the Exiled Saints in Missouri. 1 Kirtland Mills, Ohio, December 10, 1833.)

Now destruction means, as I understand it, banishment, or to be shut out of the kingdom of God and have to dwell somewhere else. – Joseph Fielding Smith, April 1942

“Rabbi, is there a proper blessing for the czar?” [or, in other words, a person of unrighteousness dominion]? After some pondering, the rabbi of Anatyevka answered, “May God bless and keep the czar… far away from us!” – Fiddler On The Roof.

“A man who practices wrong may have all these blessings pronounced upon him; he may have been baptized, and have had hands laid upon him; he may go through the Temple and have wives sealed to him and have every blessing promised unto him that is promised to the most faithful of the children of God, and yet if he does not live so as to be worthy of these blessings, he will not receive them; he will, sooner or later, be bereft of them and left destitute. This is the glorious feature of this great tie that God has restored to the earth. It only binds the righteous. It does not bind the wicked to the righteous. It does not bind the wicked to the wicked. It’s power and saving force can only be exercised and enjoyed where righteousness prevails.” – Apostle George Q. Cannon, Journal of Discourses, 26:241

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